— Shea Stadium Doomsday Clock —


Filed under: Baseball | Mets | Shea | Tickets
by Kingman on March 11 at 5:02PM

SheaInnards_053107Good article in yesterday’s NY Daily News about the single-game ticket sales at Shea Stadium last weekend.

Fans lined up for the last time ever to get tickets for the season. Very bittersweet tale.


Anthony D'Alessio fell in love with the Mets in 1981 and has since called the wilting Shea Stadium a second home.

Twice he pulled off the ultradedicated feat of attending all 81 home games, and Sunday he sealed the deal on the hat trick - snagging $5 and $10 ducats as single season tickets went on sale for Shea's final act.

"Oh, yes," D'Alessio said, holding the stack. "To me, baseball is life."

The 44-year-old dry cleaner who grew up in Flushing was one of a handful of Amazin' faithful who braved chilly, whipping winds to stand in line for the 9a.m. box office opening.

"It's a tradition for die-hards to come here," said D'Alessio, dressed in a heavy parka and a Mets ski hat that looked like it dated back to when the team last won the World Series in 1986.

That tradition seems to have lost out to modern technology as tickets went on sale simultaneously by phone and Internet.

The most coveted seats for the home opener, the Subway Series and the final regular season game at Shea sold out weeks ago in a lottery system that most fans panned.

"It's a disgrace," said Pete Poshka, 51, who was disappointed he and his son Eric, 12, were only able to get tickets to midseason games against the Florida Marlins and Philadelphia Phillies.

Barely 80 fans had bought tickets by 9:30 a.m., and only a few more trickled in as the morning progressed.

"It's not like the old days where lines wrapped around the stadium," said a security guard who didn't have much to do.

The anemic numbers contrasted greatly with the scene at Yankee Stadium last week where hundreds of fans camped out overnight for a chance to buy tickets and say goodbye to the legendary park.

With rising, state-of-the-art, 45,000-seat Citi Field casting a shadow on Shea, fans spoke fondly of the old-school arena and their need to bid farewell.

"I'm going to miss this place," said Poshka, who used to pedal his old Sting-Ray bike from his childhood home in Jackson Heights to Flushing Meadows-Corona Park just to hear the crowd roar.

"I know the new stadium is going to be so much better," said Poshka, a bank technology manager who now lives in Roslyn, L.I. "But I've got so many memories in this place."






Friday afternoon I received many versions of this e-mail. Any Loge13.com readers fare better?

TicketRejection_022208



[February 22, 2008 4:37 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Doug said

Hope. Same message. Except mine came in plain text.

[February 26, 2008 11:20 AM]  |  link  |  reply
Garyfran replied to Doug

I actually won the lottery. But getting tix for the last game at Shea was impossible. They must have sold out in minutes. I wound up getting Mets/Yanks tix. (Game 3 on Sunday)

[February 22, 2008 4:41 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Stormy said

Struck out here as well & I'm assuming all my family & friends who tried for me failed as well. Sigh.

[February 22, 2008 5:04 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Mets2Moon said

No luck here, on several e-mail addresses.

[February 22, 2008 5:12 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Kingman said

Bummer. A couple other friends of mine forwarded me the same note. I have met no winners yet.

[February 23, 2008 9:25 AM]  |  link  |  reply
Eli said

Sadly, same with me.

[February 23, 2008 10:29 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Ron Hunt said

I think the whole thing was a ruse, they are holding back tickets, big surprise, please check back later. Whatever, I hate the Perez $$ but I'm feeling good about many other things. As Thom Boswell's book title said "why time begins on Opening Day" I'm counting down.

[February 23, 2008 11:21 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Stay At Shea said

Can someone who won this ticket lottery post the winning message? Someone must have won...

[February 24, 2008 9:32 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Mr Met said

Won the drawing got 4 tix for opening day loge and 2 for last game loge.

[February 25, 2008 1:14 AM]  |  link  |  reply
Glenn Beck said

My brother got a congratulations message! We got six for 28th September. We had already resigned ourselves to seeing earlier games in August, but will get the bonus of seeing the last game from the Mezz! I'm flying in from Germany twice even if the seats are partially obstructed for this historic day. My condolences to everyone hoping and not receiving the chance for tickets.

[February 25, 2008 9:29 AM]  |  link  |  reply
Kingman said

Congrats to those of you who got through. You're a real fan and Shea pilgrim, Glenn, to make that journey. I hope y'all give us your first hand accounts of the game.




Filed under: Baseball | Mets | Shea | Tickets
by Kingman on February 22 at 9:20AM

062807_SheaEscalatorHas anyone won the lottery yet?

The Shea Stadium ticket lottery ends Friday night, midnight. It is your only fair and balanced chance to buy single game tickets for Opening day, Shea’s last day or the Subway Series.

The odds aren’t very good. According to published reports, only 11,000 people our of an estimated 275,000 registrants will have a chance at Opening day tickets. The rest of those 55,000 tickets are claimed (presumably) by season-ticket and seven-pack plan holders.

The NY Daily news had a good article the other day about the end of pre-season ticket lines at Shea. Some excerpts:

Diehards who annually camp outside Shea Stadium to get big-game tickets the moment they go on sale are annoyed with the Internet lottery - now in its second year - that chooses who can buy highly prized ducats.

"It's a major disappointment," complained Matt Hoey, 32, a teacher from upstate Newburgh, who had a seven-year streak, from 1999 to 2005, of being first in line, ahead of thousands of fellow fanatics.

"After baseball season, it was always, 'See you in February.' Not anymore," said Hoey, bemoaning the loss of a treasured fan ritual that rewarded grit and stamina over mouse-clicking prowess.

A Mets spokesman said the team decided an online drawing was the fairest way to sell tickets - especially for fans not near Flushing> - to the home opener, matchups with the Yankees and the last regular-season game at Shea.

The Amazin's will offer the seats to 11,000 of the 275,000 e-mailers who registered. The faithful will learn whether they made the cut by tomorrow night.

Single-game tickets to remaining home games go on sale March 9 by phone, online at mets.com and at the ballpark.

That day, the box office line is expected to reach an anemic 100, a far cry from the thousands who used to pitch tents - and forge friendships - as they waited in line for days at a time.

Paul Bayona, who was first in line in 2006, wondered if he'd now be shut out of the home opener and Mets-Yankees tickets.

"A fan who'd put in his time and spent a week out there is pretty much getting screwed," railed Bayona, 21, of Kearny, N.J. "It's not fair for the real fans. It takes a certain person to stand out there for their team."

The day tickets went on sale, fans were often treated to free coffee, giveaways and greetings from Mets greats like Hall of Fame catcher Gary Carter, who stopped by the ticket line in 2005.

"It's kind of surprising that they canceled that. The fans looked forward to it," said Carter, now a manager with the Orange County Flyers, an independent team in California.






Filed under: Baseball | Mets | Shea | Tickets
by Kingman on February 7 at 9:00PM

LogeSignI admit it, I was cranky before when I wrote about Santana’s evil ways at Shea.

So lets move on. Do you wanna go to the last game at Shea? Or Opening Day? Great! This year, the Mets are doing something special. They have bundled most of the Opening Day, Subway Series and Shea Finale tickets into 7–pack ticket plans. But a handful of these ducats will be available to you and countless scalpers in a special lottery drawing. Just go here to apply. Winners will be announced February 19 – 22. As the site says:

The online random drawing will be the sole means of purchasing single game tickets for these games.

The Mets have launched the online ticket registration to provide fans a fair and convenient way to purchase tickets from the limited availability for Opening Day, Subway Series, and the Final Regular Season Game at Shea. The limited inventory is a result of a significant increase in year-to-date sales of Season Tickets, Ticket Plans and Packs, which also offer tickets to Opening Day, the Subway Series and the Final Regular Season Game at Shea.

Good luck!



[February 8, 2008 2:06 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Doug said

I am all for the random drawing. "Fair" is not the same for everyone. With the on-line drawing, it affords more people with the opportunity to get tickets. The old "Lets Camp Out" method was unfair to those who couldn't afford to camp out - due to work, distance from the venue, etc. - and secure their tickets.

You can't please all the people all the time....

-Doug




Filed under: Baseball | Shea | Tickets
by Kingman on January 23 at 9:01PM

Sheainterior_062807Loge 13 residents have recently been in touch with Mets brass about the status of our ticket plans beyond 2008. We were told the same party line: upgrade your package to a fullseason plan ASAP or take a hike.

As we enter our 23rd — and as of now final – season as Met ticket holders, I am a) not surprised at the Mets stance and b) not too excited about the 2008 season.

MetsGrrl posted a ticket manifesto recently. She is also a long time partial plan owner and also disgusted with how the Mets are treating loyal fans. You should read the entire post, as she expresses disdain for the Mets last game lotto, as we did a week back. On the subject of transferring plan owners to Citi Field, MetsGrrl says:

The whole thing smacks more of fearmongering than any kind of marketing savvy. At some point, no one will care. At some point, the people who have $5k for a full season have stepped up to the plate. There will be those people who panic at the last minute and commit, but my gut is that it’s not going to be a number that will make a true financial difference to the Mets.

I’m trying hard to understand why someone who has had a Saturday plan for 10 years would have less priority in Citi Field than someone who coughed up the cash for a full season in 2008. I do not expect to have the same priority as our friends on the Loge who have had their Tuesday/Friday plan for twice as long as I have.

I hate to mention That Team From The Bronx on here at all, especially in comparison to the Mets, but I can tell you that:
1) Plan holders have already been told what their rights are regarding all games, INCLUDING the All Star Game
2) Plan holders have also been told that they will receive information regarding what will happen in 2009 in a few months.

Come on, Wilpons. Step UP here

MetsGrrl advises her readers to call the Met ticket office to complain. We’ve been on the case and will continue. But this will probably go down to the wire.



[January 24, 2008 1:27 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Ron Hunt said

It's our 24th season!

[January 24, 2008 4:58 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Rickey24 said

You and Mets Grrl are absolutely right.

I did some research and was able to find the following article about the size of the Mets full season ticket base. The article is about 3 years old but it contains some information regarding what the Mets are trying to do with respect to increasing their full season ticket base. For comparison, I think the Yankees have slightly under 34,000 full season ticket holders.

http://www.mlb.com/news/article.jsp...t=.jsp&c_id=nym

According to the article, the Mets had 13,000 full season ticket holders in 2004 (after a string of bad seasons). Dave Howard stated that their goal was to get back to the high-water mark of 24,000 full season ticket holders which was established in 1988. Looking at the attendance for each home game last season, the lowest total was 25,236 (for a Wednesday afternoon game against the Marlins in early May). Assuming a small walkup crowd for that particular game, I'd say the Mets had about 24,000 to 25,000 full season ticket holders in 2007.

If that total increased to 27,000 full season seats for the new stadium. The Mets could potentially offer the following partial plans: 8,000 half season plans (41 games) which would cover approximately 4,000 full season seats; and 16,000 quarter season plans (20 games) which would cover approximately 4,000 full season seats. That would leave 10,000 full season seats (45,000-35,000) at Citi Field available to the general public. I think the Mets goal is probably to leave 5,000 to 6,000 seats available (this is the total that was left available for the lottery for Opening Day and the Yankees game).

As a result, the Mets might try to get the full season ticket base to 30,000 and perhaps sell more of the aforementioned partial plans or perhaps offer a limited number of Saturday or Sunday Plans. In any event, they will likely wait until they have gotten their full season ticket holders locked in for 2009 before they offer any partial plans. It wouldn't surprise me if the Mets required 2008 season ticket holders to place a substantial non-refundable deposit for the 2009 season at some point during the 2008 season (For example, the Nationals required current plan holders to pay a deposit by July 13, 2007 in order to keep their priority for the 2008 season; of course, they also offered partial plan holders priority upfront).

This would allow them to have a good idea of how many full season ticket holders they will have at Citi Field as well as figure out a way to allocate a portion of the remaining Citi Field ticket inventory to their current partial plan holders (such allocation likely to be based on the size of the partial plan and seniority of such plan holders).

Admittedly, this is pure speculation on my part but it might be how the Mets are thinking.

Finally, the Yankees will be sending all of their ticket licensees a relocation guide in "early 2008." As soon as this comes out, Mets partial plan holders should pepper the ticket office and media with questions regarding what the Mets will be doing.

[January 25, 2008 11:34 AM]  |  link  |  reply
Ron Hunt said

Nice post Rickey 24, good info, thanks!

Everyone else, please keep those cards, letters, emails, phone calls flowing to David Newman at the Mets.

Should I post his phone number?

[January 26, 2008 12:00 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Doug said

A quick and dirty estimate from data obtained describing the current configuration of Shea (# of seats / level) and number of rows of seats in box seating and reserved seating suggests that Shea Stadium has only 22,000 BOX seats total in all levels (Field, Loge, Mezz, and Upper)

I realize there are some persons that have full-season seats in Reserved Seating, but I think that is offset by the fact that nobody has a full season box in Section 48 of the Upper Deck.

Even if EVERY BOX SEAT at Shea was sold as a Season Ticket, that means that 22,000 season seats are sold, leaving at least that many for partial plans / packages / single games.

I personally believe there is nothing to worry about. I believe that partials will be offered in the new park. The biggest issue will be location location location. I will worry when I logon to Mets dot Com, attempt to purchase a full season package, and all they can offer is Upper Deck, Section 48.

Cheers!
-Doug

[January 27, 2008 3:07 PM]  |  link  |  reply
kingman said

Good post, Doug. I hope your optimism pays off for all of us. It's too bad that the Yankees organization, as dysfunctional as the media has portrayed it the past year, is way ahead of the Mets in transitioning ticket holders.

[January 28, 2008 11:39 AM]  |  link  |  reply
Doug said

Kingman, Thank you for the nice words. If anyone can give me the actual number of rows of reserved seating in each level (including obstructed view), I'd be happy to revise my estimate. I originally assumed that their are 12, 16, and 24 Rows in Reserved Seating in the Loge, Mezz, and UD respectively. I know there are 4, 6, and 6 rows of box seats in each respective level.

The Yankees are way ahead in publishing their relocation package because they have a much bigger season ticket base - they have a more pressing need to disclose their plans. I can see the Yankees turning away some partial-plan holders in the end if they cannot accommodate them all. (As they had to eliminate their plan holder's rights to post-season games because of capacity issues.) The Nationals published theirs early (I read it when it was made available) because they NEEDED to draw fans into buying packages early. And by offering generous relocation rights, they may have been able to get more people to RFK.

The Mets are somewhere in between the Yanks and the Nats. The Mets have chosen a path they feel will garner them the most revenue and increase their Full Season Ticket base. They haven't stated whether or not partials will be offered in the new park, just that Full Season Ticket holders will get first dibs. One of their letters sent to me read that they have not decided what to do with excess inventory. That is fine by me.

I think that anyone who can afford / is willing to afford a Full Season Ticket Package already has one. I don't see the Corporate entity buying a Full Season Package unless it is in a sweet location, and those are probably already spoken for.

When I went on a tour in the preview center (RIP Casey's), we were told that the reps on hand have NO info about relocation. The majority of visitors who signed the attendance sheet wrote that they are partial plan holders. They also said they'd be calling in long time season ticket holders (those most senior) into the room to view their new seat locations...

If there was really a shortage on seats in the new Ballpark, they wouldn't have to advertise "The only way to guarantee your way in is by buying a Full Season Plan."

In the end, I believe they will give all the Full Season holders their seats, then start filling remaining capacity with partial plans as best they can. There are plenty of seats to go around. I am sure they have their plans, they are just holding their cards close, because if they told the public that partials will be offered, they risk not meeting their goal of increasing Full-Season Tickets.

The fact the Mets choked in September, and their lack of off-season moves this year actually helps us partial-plan holder's cause...

-Doug

[May 14, 2008 12:45 PM]  |  link  |  reply
a hitler said

I AM STARTING TO DISLIKE THE METS











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