— Days Without Shea —

by Kingman on October 18 at 5:21PM
I am presuming that thanks exclusively to Loge13, the Mets have broken down and offered partial ticket plans at Citi Field!

The Kingman clan received a letter in the mail today. It is the same letter that Rickey24 highlighted in the previous post's comments (thanks Rickey!). Here is a scanned version of the same letter we got, as found on baseball-fever:


Very strange offerings. Two 40 game plan packages? Why Five 15 game packages? We're looking forward to the details.

But the good news is that, according to the letter, each 2008 ticket plan holder will get a chance to buy seats. It doesn't sound like there's any seniority (i.e.: do folks with 25 years worth of tickets get to choose seats before folks who just bought a plan in 2008). But we'll find out.

Meanwhile, I called Ron Hunt to see if he got the letter. He didn't because he is in Wisconsin. He did drive by Shea on the  way to the airport and was HORRIFIED by the site of our beloved Shea, coming down in pieces.

Sorry we couldn't save you old friend. RIP Shea Stadium. While we couldn't stop your date with destiny, I'm convinced Loge13's mighty readers did cause a karmic eruption in the Mets ticket office that led to today's surprise in the mail. There is only this left to say:


[October 18, 2008 6:50 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Ron Hunt said

Can you hear me scream from the Badger State?

This is an amazing development, something I was beginning to think would not happen.
I very interested in the details - schedule of games, ticket prices, seat selection, etc. I see a light at the end of the tunnel and it's no longer a train approaching.

[October 18, 2008 9:24 PM]  |  link  |  reply
jay said

lol, these partial season ticket plans are going to be for the ridiculously priced seats...i.e. everything not in the upper deck. those seats are going to be long gone.

[October 18, 2008 11:38 PM]  |  link  |  reply
dyhrdmet said

congrats. i'm sure your seats won't be too bad or too expensive. 40-game plans seem obvious - arbitrary split of the last 80 home games of the season (you didn't think a partial plan would get you in for the opener, did you?). i'm curious about the 15-game plans. anything covering a single day of the week is usually 13 games (days of the week are split evenly over 26 weeks between home and road). when you share your choices (along with others choosing partial plans), i guess we'll see what seats are really available for individuals (if any).

[November 1, 2008 11:15 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Janis replied to dyhrdmet

Do what I have been doing every season - just buy a ticket from someone outside the gate who has an extra seat. I have done this for playoff games and world series games. It never fails. And never, ever, park n the Shea lot.

[October 19, 2008 1:28 AM]  |  link  |  reply
John from Bklyn said

I haven't received my letter yet...

I have been a Sunday plan holder for the last 3 years. There are few things in life as enjoyable as spending a sunday afternnon in the sun at Shea. I'm disappointed to see the Sunday plan is likely gone.

Are the 15-game plans going to be chock full of Thursday afternoon getaway games?

[October 20, 2008 4:26 AM]  |  link  |  reply
Paul said

Well we did it. Thanks to everyone who kept the dream alive. Keep the faith. Lets see what they offer. Remember we all All in this together. It makes me proud to see the TRUE Met Fans stick together. As Casey would say...AMAZING!!!!!

[October 20, 2008 9:35 AM]  |  link  |  reply
fm said

have been a saturday plan holder for 25 years, sec 222b. i promise you the seats will not be in the expensive seats, they have been trying to force me out of the field since '99. and as for the 15 game plan it seems obvious to me.....5 plans of 15=75 games total. all 15 game plans will be equally divided of good and bad games that way each plan encompasses just one seat. so much like when they came out with the seven packs, you will be forced to take a tuesday nats game for an enjoyable sunday in the sun. anyway at least we didnt get shutout....on a sidenote, remember how they named the 7-packs?...."champ pack" and so on? well do you think they could name one of the 15 games...."the collapse pack?"

[October 21, 2008 10:06 AM]  |  link  |  reply
Doug said

I told you so...... As Casey would say, "You can look it up."

I have not received my letter, but I am sure it will be waiting for me when I get home.. I was away for a long weekend.

My initial guess is this....

1. The 40-game plans will be every-other game after the home opener. These seats will come with post-season guarentees.

2. I guess the 15-game plans will be every 5th day. These are less likely to have post-season guarentees, and will probably entitle the plan holder to a limited pre-sale of playoff tickets.

It's too bad that is looks as if the "Days of the Week" plans are gone... But I guess what they don't want is every Tom, Dick, and Harry to put their gloves on a Saturday or Sunday plan... They want to spread the wealth across multiple plans.


[October 22, 2008 11:40 AM]  |  link  |  reply
Doug said

Indeed my letter arrived in yesterday's email.

Regarding plans and post-season options, this is my guess on what will be offered:

1. Full-Season Ticket Holders will be offered their seats to all playoff games.

2. 40-game plan holders will be offered their seats to at least one game per round, as follows:
a. DS - Home Game 1 (Plan A) or Home Game 2 (Plan B). Home Game 3 goes into the Pre-Post-Season Sale pool.
b. LCS - Home Games 2 and 3 (Plan A) or Home Games 1 and 4 (Plan B).
c. WS - Home Games 1 and 4 (Plan A) or Home Games 2 and 3 (Plan B). If the NL doesn't have home field, only one game will be offered, and the 3rd home game goes into the Pre-Post-Season Sale pool. Post-season Games offered to 40-game plan holders will switch off from year to year, meaning that if you were offered Plan A post-season games in 2009, the same 40-game plan would get you Plan B games in 2010.

3. The 15-game plans will allow the plan holder to buy the same number of tickets in their plan to one-post season game, in a location that is not sold to a full-season ticket holder or a 40-game plan holder. (i.e. - If you have a 4 seat 15 game plan, then you can buy 4 tickets to one post-season game, or maybe 2 tickets to 2 post-season games, across all rounds.)

Tickets not sold to season or plan holders will be put into the pool to choose from.

I doubt this leaves many seats left for sale to the General Public.

This is just a guess......

I did read posts about 15-game plans, namely, why 15-gamers? 15x5=75, and leaves 6 games open for them to make six-packs. If you want the home opener, you buy a six-pack and get 5 value-games. If you want a Subway Series game, you buy a six-pack and get 5 value games.

Waiting anxiously for more info....


[October 23, 2008 12:34 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Val said

The yankees' 15 game plans are weekend games plus two weekday. That seems reasonable to me. You get to cherry pick the weekend and you buy two less desirable games. I am hoping the mets do something similar. The only reason I am not convinced this is the way the mets are going is because the yankees offer three 15 game plans and the mets say they are offering a choice of five.

[November 1, 2008 11:13 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Janis replied to Val

Don't ever say the Y word! Ever

[October 26, 2008 1:16 AM]  |  link  |  reply
Jesse said

Wow! im really happy for all of you ticket holders who deserved better!

I was checked this site every day for the past year looking for updates on shea and citi fiels, and to see if/when the mets would finally do the right thing. Im glad they finally did.

I just hope that you continue to update the site to pay homage to shea during its final days, as well as keep us updated on ticket information as it becomes available.

again, congrats

[October 27, 2008 2:07 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Andrew said

Congrats Kingman! Glad to see the true fans are finally getting taken care of.

Drove by Shea yesteray. All it says now is "TADIUM".

[November 1, 2008 2:45 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Bobster said

You haven't posted since the 18th - is that the end of Loge 13?

[November 2, 2008 7:33 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Kingman said

Hi Bobster, Hi everyone,

Sorry I haven't posted in a bit. No it is certainly not the end of Loge13. After we got the letter, I decided to take a couple days off from posting. That turned into two weeks. I thought I'd get reacquainted with the Kingman family and a second job I'm working this fall got a bit busy. Perhaps the biggest factor to my slow return: I couldn't bear to look at any more pictures or video of Shea coming down. Folks have been very generous sending me stuff and I had intended to cover Shea's dismantling but honestly, it's kind of like watching your childhood home get flattened in slow motion. Sometimes it's better to not look. I plan on ramping up again shortly (and thanks for the e-mails Bobster; I'll be posting all that great stuff). Stay tuned.

[November 11, 2008 1:17 PM]  |  link  |  reply
John Eberhard said

This is how the Yankees are doing their 15 game plans. It's on their website.

I sure hope the Mets treat us loyal fans as well.

I loved my Saturday plan...


New Plans in 2009. Similar to the 2008 "C," "D" and "F" Plans; the "C," "D" and "F" Plans will not be available in 2009.

The 2008 "C," "D" and "F" Plans have been further developed and modified to create three new 15-Game Plans. Choose the Plan that best suits your needs.
The Friday Plan+ consists of all 13 Friday Games, as well as two designated weekday Games, for a total of 15 Games. Please note that if Opening Day is scheduled for a Friday, another weekday Game will be substituted for Opening Day.
The Saturday Plan+ consists of all 13 Saturday Games, as well as two designated weekday Games, for a total of 15 Games. Please note that if Opening Day is scheduled for a Saturday, another weekday Game will be substituted for Opening Day.
The Sunday Plan+ consists of all 13 Sunday Games, as well as two designated weekday Games, for a total of 15 Games. Please note that the scheduled Opening Day is not included in this Plan.
Benefits for all 15-Game Plans:
A 15-Game Plan will include the same great seats for all 15 Games and will provide access to a pre-on-sale (prior to any public sale) for Yankees postseason home games.6 Licensing a 15-Game Plan will provide a Licensee the opportunity to enjoy other features and amenities such as discounts off Game Day ticket prices, ticket forwarding, ticket exchange (subject to availability) and the StubHub ticket resale program.

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September 28, 2008 was the date of Shea Stadium's last game.

But October 14 is officially day one of the demolition process.

NY1 has a short segment on the new phase of the deconstruction of Shea.

As you probably know, Shea won't be imploded. Instead, it will come down section by section.

The Mets are really sticking to the timetable. It has been 14 full days since the last game.

[October 15, 2008 8:49 AM]  |  link  |  reply
bobster said

Today was also the 39th anniversary of the first World Series game ever played at Shea Stadium. The Mets beat the Orioles 5-0 to take a 2-1 lead in the series. Gary Gentry was the starter and Nolan Ryan the closer. But it was Tommie Agee's game - he hit a leadoff homer and made two sensational catches. Perhaps the greatest single postseason performance by a Met in their history. And I was sitting in the upper deck, a very happy 14-year-old kid.

[October 18, 2008 3:36 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Rickey24 said

Great news. The Mets will offer partial plans at Citi Field. I received a letter in the mail today stating that the Mets will offer two (2) 40-game and five (5) 15-game plans.

[October 18, 2008 3:37 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Rickey24 said

For a copy of the letter, see the attached link.


[October 23, 2008 12:44 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Anonymous said

The old time stadiums are quickly leaving

[October 23, 2008 4:22 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Luigi said

Does no one in this country know what the term "implosion" actually means? Jeez!

[November 3, 2008 11:45 AM]  |  link  |  reply
Cardinal70 said

The Cards took down Busch II the same way. It was strange to see pictures and video of the place coming down in chunks.

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 Empty Shea Stadium _loge13_101408.jpg
Matthew from MetsBlog.com was allowed into Shea Stadium Monday.

It must have felt a bit like going to the morgue to identify the body.

Nevertheless, he took a pile of amazing photos and has posted them here for your viewing.

I like this one on the left. You can almost see Loge13 from this angle. Man this is a creepy site.

Also, in case you missed it, The Home Run Apple - ya know, the one the Mets said was to fragile to move?

Well they moved it.

There are some photos floating around, both on SheaGoodbye and also SaveTheApple.com.

We had all been led to believe the Apple would stay where it was. The Mets had officially said Citi Field would have its own new Apple. Where the original one is now going is unknown at this point. Kinda like the partial season ticket holders.

The Apple guys surmise that maybe they are just moving the Apple so it doesn't get damaged by the upcoming deconstruction. Lets hope so.

Hey Apple guys - you did everything you could. Thanks for trying.

[October 14, 2008 3:31 PM]  |  link  |  reply
caryn said

Not one to defend the Wilpon$, but if you look at the Apple, all they took (so far at least) was the actual Apple and the "home run" overlay.

They said the apple couldn't be moved because the hydraulics were ancient, and they weren't sure they would survive the move. Given that they stopped working more than a few times this year (that Rangers rainout being one of them), I felt that this was, at least, a true statement.

The fact that the apple is gone now but the top hat is still there either means:
1) they were telling the truth or
2) someone bought the apple or
3) they're just halfway through moving it.

I tend to believe 1 or 2, because if they were moving the whole thing they wouldn't have cut out the HOME RUN overlay.

[October 14, 2008 4:00 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Ron Hunt said

Kingman - you may want to consider some type of warning when showing pictures with such disgusting graphic detail. I'm sick to my stomach.

Will this year's Mets' misery never end?

[October 14, 2008 4:38 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Doug said


This photo is of the 3rd base side, peering into the visitor's dugout, probably from a vantage point near the pitcher's mound, not the first base side.

With regards to the apple... It looked tired and fragile in the photos. Let us assume they will put a new one in CitiField, and then put this one back on the fan-walk. It probably could use some refurbishing after 30 years outdoors. In addition, imagine the cries if something fell on it during demolition and crushed it. They probably need to move in heavy equipment to remove the scoreboard, light tower, and speaker foundations. One of the photos showed a neon sign company hauling it... so maybe it is getting a makeover.

The Home Run overlay was always removeable, as it used to read, "Mets Magic"

If anyone sees a big red apple in a dump truck....... make sure its heading to the HOF in Cooperstown.


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Kevin Walsh's Forgotten_NY.com has put together a very comprehensive tribute to Shea Stadium.

From A - the home run Apple -  to Z -  the Zipper factory -  Forgotten NY tries to touch all the bases on this one.

So if your Shea/Mets jones still needs scratching (and I know it does), carve out some time and check out the tribute.

Nice job Kevin.

On another note, I know some of y'all ordered Shea stuff from the MeiGray Group. Has anyone heard from them yet. It has only been 15 days since the last game so I suppose it's early yet. I just want to get those foul polls in the ground before the first frost.

[October 13, 2008 6:57 PM]  |  link  |  reply
dyhrdmet said

i talked to some folks at MeiGray on Friday and had been playing phone tag with questions about packaging, etc. I'm supposed to be contacted by their delivery vendor this week about delivering my items (that section sign is too large for any vehicle i had access to). most places where you spend over $1000, delivery is free.

[October 14, 2008 10:42 AM]  |  link  |  reply
8/15/65 said

I ordered my brick. $50 for foul territory and $100 for fair. I chose foul, as you could actually see them. They couldn't give me an idea as to when I'd get it.

[October 14, 2008 2:32 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Doug said

I wonder how much stuff one could get for free if you just followed the dumpster as it was towed away from the ballpark....

I am sure there will be many things that will end up being discarded.


[October 14, 2008 7:50 PM]  |  link  |  reply
dyhrdmet said

i got an email from them with an update and they mentioned having 25 truckloads of items being shipped away from Shea. i wonder how much of those shipping costs get passed on to us who bought their items.

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Loge_dismantle_Newsday.jpgNewday published a great slideshow of the dismantling of Shea Stadium. They took quite a few pictures from Loge 17. Very tough to look at but here's the link...

[October 12, 2008 9:31 PM]  |  link  |  reply
dyhrdmet said

aaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!! [inaudible shriek]

[October 17, 2008 11:04 PM]  |  link  |  reply
Stan said

Yesterday, my phone rang in the middle of the day. The caller-id had that familiar "718-507" exchange. I couldn't imagine who could be calling me. Maybe Omar wanted to invite me to tag along to the Winter meetings.

No such luck, but there was other good news, as someone from the Mets was calling to verify the shipping address for my pair of oranges. Six to eight weeks, they're telling me, and hopefully they haven't washed the boiled hot dog smell out of them.

[March 19, 2009 5:42 PM]  |  link  |  reply
JayVee421 said

Hello to all Met fans still looking for stadium seats Go to
Archer Seating Clearinghouse
They have old wooden seats & also modern plastic seats
(like at Shea) The prices are even more AMAZIN'( ha ha)Like a single seat from Tiger stadium for $250 Or a double from Camden Yards for 350.They even have seats you can customize yourself. I might get a cheap pair paint them either orange or blue, probably blue since MY old seats were in the Loge
And i'll have stadium seats. Not Shea seats but stadium seats non the less. Check it out!

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